honda0105

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Tallahassee
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 7:28:31 PM
skybiker: change to solar.
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honda0105

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Tallahassee
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 7:28:07 PM
sadly, the only ones who will ultimately pay for the C&T will be the consumer.
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TIGERPAW46

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Florida
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2010 11:12:25 PM
up up & away
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skybiker

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South Carolina
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2010 10:47:28 PM
Right here in the Carolinas, The electric Company is being forced to switch from coal with scrubbers to Nat Gas and we expect the electric bills to double in the next two years. We are already one of the highest cost states for electricity.....
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Bussman

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Dallas
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2010 10:38:40 PM
Well said skybiker!
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EVBuddy

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Nevada
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2010 10:24:09 PM
We need renewable energy resources.
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JoeKR

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2010 10:24:00 PM
Factoring carbon prices into long term planning calculations is simple - they will just pass along any costs and desires for greater profit to the consumer.
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ItsMorph

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Grand Rapids
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2010 10:19:15 PM
Idiots. Climate change is a fact. OF NATURE!
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skybiker

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South Carolina
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2010 10:19:13 PM
Guys!! Read My Lips!!! CO2 is not a pollutant!!! Carbon Legislation is a stealth tax and power grab by the Enviro-nuts!! This Cap and Trade will destroy the US economy....Maybe that's what they want...Think Cloward-Piven.....Google it....
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Blue_Cruzer

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Lexington
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2010 10:17:35 PM
This is another example of the present administrations ruining our country.
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joelimo

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New York
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2010 10:17:27 PM
Pede,,,makes a lot of sense for whoever (golbeAl an Co) can tax even your Breath,,,
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altonb1

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Pennsylvania
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2010 10:14:02 PM
Pushing a huge tax like this now is irresponsible. Obama's policies are destorying this nation.
OBAMA - One Big-ass Mistake, America
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TBONE3

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Pennsylvania
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2010 10:11:58 PM
Has this administration accomplished anything GOOD for the taxpayers? I think not!
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Pede

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2010 10:10:58 PM
It makes no sense why tax people more for something so unsure
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CobraLeader

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2010 10:09:52 PM
... Another reason for gas prices to go up!!! ...
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TIGERPAW46

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Florida
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2010 10:08:40 PM
>"a new variable is emerging as the most worrisome for Big Oil: the cost of carbon."<
Here it comes Another ugly three headed monster created by the current party in control in Washington. The Cap & Trade Bill. AS if Energy prices weren't unstable enough These Federal Fees, Another way of taxation, will increase our cost much more than The Party claims or will admit. Just hold unto your pants because you won't need to be concerned about losing just your shirt.
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HEBster

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Kentucky
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2010 10:07:37 PM
Guess I'll have to look into this a little more...
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Bezalel

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Oklahoma City
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2010 10:04:16 PM
I don't think he will get the tax passed, I hope not. It would be bad for the economy. Now with "green" bio fuels shown to not be better than fossil fuels, what will happen with them?
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Toppers

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Atlanta
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2010 10:03:05 PM
Hope they weight them carefully...
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FastAndy

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Indianapolis
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2010 9:58:15 PM
Obama will get a carbon tax passed and it will hurt our economy.
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rugbyphil

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Las Vegas
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2010 9:58:14 PM
blame the fools that believe climate change is the result of mankind...what an ego...we are insignificant to climate change. Yes we can pollute the environment, but that is NOT climate change.... having C02 listed as a "pollutant" is absurd, and will cost the US economy in a major way!
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jjjleblanc

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Rochester
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2010 9:58:09 PM
In any case, costs eventually are passed on to consumers.
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Bus561

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Lexington
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2010 9:57:09 PM
These cut throat thieves don't care about anyone or the economy.
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Pede

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2010 9:52:47 PM
Why do they keep hurting the econmy ??????????
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HEBster

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Kentucky
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2010 9:51:16 PM
Hadn't factored carbon in...
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Bert2010

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Columbus
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2010 9:41:15 PM
Cap and trade is less about putting money into government coffres than putting more money into the greedy hands of the ultra-rich and banks and finaciers.
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silvolvo

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2010 9:37:56 PM
everyone needs to brace for the impact of carbon rules as we will all be paying for it everytime we turn around
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ChiKid

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Denver
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2010 9:37:35 PM
They develop excessive future to insure large future profits. As usual they win and we loose.
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WillCody

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Austin
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2010 9:36:13 PM
The carbon tax is NOT about conservation, it is about putting money in the government coffers for the politicians to spend on their pet projects! The projected revenue, at $346 billion, was the largest single line item on Obama's budget proposal last year. If it was about reducing both oil imports and CO2 production, the emphasis would be on drilling domestically and nuclear energy, rather than additional taxes on the consumer when the economy is not exactly robust!
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mazdaboy

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Portland
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2010 9:36:04 PM
Change is on the way.
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dbatw

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St. Louis
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2010 9:33:17 PM
they see the handwriting on the wall...
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judgemobile

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2010 9:29:00 PM
how much of these CARBON credits goes into the pocket of that INCONVENIENT TRUTH guy, AL BORE ?
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joelimo

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New York
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2010 9:27:31 PM
after the 2010 midterm elections I would hope None of these a$$holes who are even Considering this Bulls#!t will be in office,,, if they are it's our fault!
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Buddy2264

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Tampa
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2010 9:17:47 PM
What we can count on as shown by history, nature will fix itself, no matter what goes wrong. However we may not like the way it gets fixed. Conservation keeps your money in your pocket.
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Z51Corvette

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Austin
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2010 9:12:27 PM
Carbon rules... Please! Are the educated going to continue to buy this garbage... Climate change is more about Pollution from Natural Disasters, the Sun and Sun Spots. (Things we CAN'T CHANGE") Why don't we have Al Gore pony up for all the Electricity waste he leaves on the table.
It's time we demand REAL DATA. These "GreenPeace" - "TreeHugger" types just think we're stupid sheep to buy all this garbage.
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Lukus

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Halifax
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2010 9:12:02 PM
Another way to push prices up.
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Jeeputtputt

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2010 9:04:39 PM
Shut up-----Big oil worry, come on, knock off the ca ca...
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npt

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Raleigh
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2010 9:04:03 PM
good info.
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woodeye55

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Gary
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2010 9:03:30 PM
I don't like to read science fiction articles.
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DellMan

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Omaha
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2010 9:00:28 PM
The environmental crazies are going to put more people out of work and cost us tons of money with their stupid ideas. Obama and his people will be the end of the good life in the US. He is trying to make us more like a third world country every day. Between the Health Care take over, the auto industry take over and the Cap & Tax plans he is slowing working at taking full control of the country and soon will want to be ruler for life.
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altima2008

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Philadelphia
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2010 8:58:28 PM
Higher gas prices is bascially the bottom line!
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Bonito

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Dayton
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2010 8:54:50 PM
Da? I think that is were we are heading ----- getting rid of Oil Companies and their Oil! Let them swim in their OIL!
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