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Plunge In CO2 Output Due To Natural Gas Fracking

Investor's Business Daily -- The most underreported recent environmental story has been the dramatic decline in energy-related carbon emissions — nearly back to mid-1990s levels, and falling.

The U.S. Energy Information Administration's (EIA) June energy report says that energy-related carbon dioxide fell to 5,473 million metric tons (MMT) in 2011.

That's down from a high of 6,020 MMT in 2007, and only a little above 1995's level of 5,314 MMT.

Better yet, emissions in the first quarter of 2012 fell at an even faster rate — down 7.5% from the first quarter of 2011 and 8.5% from the same time in 2010. If the rest of 2012 follows its first-quarter trend, we may see total energy-related carb

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Submitted Jul 19, 2012 By: ExitRamp

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CdnLynx Champion Author Ontario Posts:1,024 Points:525,835 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Jul 20, 2012 10:55:02 PM Ignore CdnLynx Report Abuse Jimpeel - There was nothing wrong with what Martinman's posted. I was agreeing with him. You misinterpreted what I stated. "as per the findings, by Martinman, re: IBD editorial section." This means, I agreed with Martinmans post (his findings) that this was from the IBD editorial section and it was originally written by Merill Mathews and the article was submitted by exitramp; (I believe in violation of submitting editorials on gasbuddy) I may stand to be corrected. Findlaw! So what's that got to do with all the tea in china, or in this case posting an article in violation of the gasbuddy terms of use. If articles are being posted in contravention of the rules of gasbuddy, then the member that agreed to those rules by joining, is in contravention of that policy. Enjoy your lunch; If there is global warming, good chance America along with other parts of the world may become a dried out dustbowl. Little arrogant & egocentric with comments like America now produces 75% of the worlds food. Their are many others in the world producing edible food; not much rice comes from America. Russia, China, Australia, Parts of S. America, Canada produce large quantities of grain; other Nations supply the Rice; a worlds staple, like China, India and many others. FAO Cereal Supply and Demand Brief Would not want you to miss this; sent to your whitebrd! Hope you won't misconstrue.
drpepperTX Champion Author Texas Posts:8,955 Points:754,160 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Jul 20, 2012 6:37:11 PM Ignore drpepperTX Report Abuse Some interesting facts to peruse here. And we surely won't hear much about it as it's not on the Eco-imperialists best interest for these facts to come forth. They would much rather salivate over doom, gloom, fear and paranoia.
jimpeel Veteran Author Colorado Posts:462 Points:107,840 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 11:46:30 PM Ignore jimpeel Report Abuse CdnLynx, I don't see a problem with Martinman's post. He merely hotlinks to the editorial. He does not violate the Fair Use Doctrine. Perhaps you should take a gander at this page from http://www.findlaw.com on what constitutes fair use. http://smallbusiness.findlaw.com/intellectual-property/fair-use-and-public-domain.html?DCMP=GOO-BUS_CopyrightBoardModifier-FairUse&HBX_PK=+fair++use++doctrine In addition, The article was originally submitted by ExitRamp yesterday. [Edited by: jimpeel at 7/20/2012 1:48:15 AM EST]
jimpeel Veteran Author Colorado Posts:462 Points:107,840 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 11:38:46 PM Ignore jimpeel Report Abuse Here is a question to ask the global warming proponents when they start complaining about co2 and AGW. Warmer temperatures and longer growing seasons mean more food for the world. The U.S. already feeds 3/4 of the world's population in some form or another. If you accomplish your goal of reversing AGW, and the result is cooler temperatures and shorter growing seasons, will you be willing to take responsibility for the millions of deaths from starvation due to the resultant shortage of food? Bring a lunch. The answer will be so long and convoluted, as they attempt to defuse your question and justify their existence, you may not have time to hear it all.
CdnLynx Champion Author Ontario Posts:1,024 Points:525,835 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 11:32:07 PM Ignore CdnLynx Report Abuse Its my understanding the the posting of editorials was in violation of Gasbuddy policy of not posting editorials. as per the findings by Martinman, re: IBD editorial section.
CdnLynx Champion Author Ontario Posts:1,024 Points:525,835 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 11:26:09 PM Ignore CdnLynx Report Abuse TFowler513 I agree, carbon has been high for far to long and we really should not be adding to it. CO2 emissions dropping may not be perfect however it's better then continuing to climb. Its fare to say that once we realize things are too bad, then maybe it will be to late to change it. However we must try to limit the pollution if not end it. Natural gas is great for heating our homes, particularly in areas away from the equator and the tropics of Capricorn/Cancer. However the ever expanding use of fracking to squeeze even more natural gas out of existing wells, some marginal, should stop as the methane pollution produced and possible risk to potable ground water is too much of a risk. Use natural gas but don't frack for it. The polar regions of the world are melting at a increasing rate, there are reasons for it and its probably been due to the industry of the last hundred years or so, heating the planet. Just today a large part of the Greenland ice field broke away (twice the size of Manhattan) and now is a floating iceberg. The following article is from 2008; still applicable for today. Would like to add, its not just the pollution of the ocean but pollution of the atmosphere; globally around the world, land, sea, and air. Some can stick their heads in the hot sand, stating rhetoric that there is no problem. Yes, it nice to have gas to drive around, however its more important, that we all can live on this small planet, a planet, that sustains all of us, for now, as, our planet fly's around in the cold, black, abyss of space! Why Is Arctic Sea Ice Melting Faster Than Predicted? NOAA Probing Arctic Pollution
RevDrCBJ Veteran Author Ann Arbor Posts:365 Points:188,275 Joined:Jul 2011	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 10:15:57 PM Ignore RevDrCBJ Report Abuse RE: why haven't temps dropped. . . Wonder how much all this asphalt paving on interstate highways is contributing to the heat. Black does draw heat, it appears that black tops would too.
JamesCalvin Champion Author Lancaster Posts:3,201 Points:522,480 Joined:Nov 2011	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 10:06:32 PM Ignore JamesCalvin Report Abuse Why haven't the tempertures dropped?
dabbadu Champion Author New York Posts:1,056 Points:662,505 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 9:54:37 PM Ignore dabbadu Report Abuse Wishful thinking.
TFowler513 Champion Author Memphis Posts:3,824 Points:1,416,485 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 9:54:10 PM Ignore TFowler513 Report Abuse Yes the rate of carbon emissions being released is decreasing but it is not enough. Carbon in the atmosphere is measured in parts per million. We are past the point where any decrease in emission is not enough to counter what we have already done. We are now at the point where we need to stop all emissions!!!
frostyWV Champion Author West Virginia Posts:2,339 Points:519,235 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 9:53:29 PM Ignore frostyWV Report Abuse sounds good.
Martinman Champion Author Mississippi Posts:14,749 Points:2,095,780 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 9:52:15 PM Ignore Martinman Report Abuse Well, first of all, this is not 'news'. It IS misinformation coming from the largest members of the oil lobby 'public policy' foundations. Did anyone else notice how the STORY totally neglects how closely the numbers mirror the declines in gasoline consumption, due to higher gas prices ? I'm surprised the Texas troll hasn't been raving and drooling all over this piece of fantasy petro-journalism....
tidalwave3 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:1,309 Points:1,466,400 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 9:52:11 PM Ignore tidalwave3 Report Abuse Good news until the Liberals get it and gripe about something els... Oh lieing is OK :(
Saunch2012 Veteran Author Pennsylvania Posts:451 Points:111,105 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 9:48:40 PM Ignore Saunch2012 Report Abuse ok
abcdMA Champion Author Worcester Posts:7,937 Points:1,577,905 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 9:47:17 PM Ignore abcdMA Report Abuse why would good news be reported?
jferrara41 All-Star Author Pennsylvania Posts:598 Points:110,665 Joined:Apr 2012	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 9:46:49 PM Ignore jferrara41 Report Abuse ok
Martinman Champion Author Mississippi Posts:14,749 Points:2,095,780 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 9:43:46 PM Ignore Martinman Report Abuse First of all, this is an IBD (Investor's Business Daily) STORY. Second, it is an Op-Ed, from IBD EDITORIAL section. It is clearly stated right above the story title, not to mention is taken from IBD's EDITORIAL page. Third, this story is written by Merrill Matthews, a staff writer for the Institute for Policy Innovation. So, just "who" is the Institute for Policy Innovation...? The Institute for Policy Innovation (IPI) is a think tank based in Lewisville, Texas and founded in 1987 by Congressman Dick Armey to "research, develop and promote innovative and non-partisan solutions to today's public policy problems."[1] The conservative Capital Research Center ranked IPI as amongst the most conservative groups in the US, scoring it as an "eight" on a scale of one to eight. [2] IPI has received funding from corporations like Exxon Mobil and organizations like the Kochs' Claude R. Lambe Foundation, Scaife Foundations, the Bradley Foundation, and others. (see "funding" section below). ----- Let's see... ExxonMobil... the Koch brothers... the Heritage Foundation... Nope. No 'bias' there... [Edited by: Martinman at 7/19/2012 11:47:07 PM EST]
91Hilux Champion Author New Haven Posts:2,177 Points:683,645 Joined:Aug 2007	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 9:41:52 PM Ignore 91Hilux Report Abuse Lower CO2... in exchange for higher methane, ground water pollution, and earthquakes from disturbing the fault lines.... Is this a good trade?
CorvairHaven Champion Author Cleveland Posts:4,364 Points:1,455,890 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 9:41:24 PM Ignore CorvairHaven Report Abuse It's easy to skew reports and make them say what you want them to say.
MrLuigi Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:4,788 Points:969,610 Joined:Jun 2005	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 9:40:06 PM Ignore MrLuigi Report Abuse a breath of fresh(er) air is always good!
AuntieM2 Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:9,475 Points:933,895 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 9:39:42 PM Ignore AuntieM2 Report Abuse Good to hear CO2 is going down.
drz614 Champion Author Harrisburg Posts:2,314 Points:600,545 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 9:35:10 PM Ignore drz614 Report Abuse talk about govt agencies not communicating. earlier articles said fracking caused high methane releases contributing to ghg.
bdl7431 Sophomore Author Columbus Posts:100 Points:36,950 Joined:Aug 2007	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 9:34:17 PM Ignore bdl7431 Report Abuse ok
iceman11 Champion Author Ontario Posts:2,715 Points:536,425 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 9:33:32 PM Ignore iceman11 Report Abuse Ok
Eugenian Champion Author Oregon Posts:1,878 Points:365,055 Joined:Oct 2009	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 9:33:25 PM Ignore Eugenian Report Abuse More disinformation from the fossil fuels industry and IBD.
MopedTime All-Star Author Michigan Posts:771 Points:362,950 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 9:33:18 PM Ignore MopedTime Report Abuse Less dependency on oil is great news.
KwingsHockey Sophomore Author Michigan Posts:107 Points:464,100 Joined:Jul 2011	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 9:32:49 PM Ignore KwingsHockey Report Abuse How Fracking great is that?
Tekkersmom57 Champion Author Syracuse Posts:1,889 Points:703,140 Joined:May 2010	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 9:31:54 PM Ignore Tekkersmom57 Report Abuse Finally, some good news to be read!
feistyfella All-Star Author Georgia Posts:881 Points:196,095 Joined:Jun 2010	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 9:30:11 PM Ignore feistyfella Report Abuse Fracking
farn1958 All-Star Author Twin Cities Posts:886 Points:183,385 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 9:29:03 PM Ignore farn1958 Report Abuse Ok this is good.
GNo1 All-Star Author Nashville Posts:940 Points:385,605 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 9:28:22 PM Ignore GNo1 Report Abuse Frack away if it means cheaper prices.
MacDad614 Champion Author Atlanta Posts:3,035 Points:1,178,520 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 9:27:00 PM Ignore MacDad614 Report Abuse Wasn't there another story this week that said the atmosphere would be adversely affected by using all that natural gas because of the damage to the atmosphere from methane? This article does not mention methane. Oh, wait! It's (this article) is from Investors.com.
toadNY Champion Author Albany Posts:7,057 Points:1,516,075 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 9:24:26 PM Ignore toadNY Report Abuse Zeke 33 are you saying obama is a LIER? Because if you are I agree.
bvrbill Champion Author Eugene Posts:3,238 Points:520,800 Joined:Jul 2011	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 9:24:18 PM Ignore bvrbill Report Abuse Tough to know what to believe.
Bud122CA Champion Author California Posts:7,481 Points:1,608,025 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 9:22:58 PM Ignore Bud122CA Report Abuse Volcanoes, wild fires and so much more are normal disasters and contribute more than we know to "golabal warming," Carbon, air quality and Ozone problems.
Zeke33 Champion Author New Hampshire Posts:5,581 Points:1,618,045 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 9:22:52 PM Ignore Zeke33 Report Abuse The EPA doesn't always tell the truth, just like our fearless leader. [Edited by: Zeke33 at 7/19/2012 11:23:18 PM EST]
mrbee Champion Author Little Rock Posts:3,769 Points:2,468,605 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 9:22:02 PM Ignore mrbee Report Abuse Good news
aggietim Champion Author Fort Worth Posts:1,756 Points:694,825 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 9:21:14 PM Ignore aggietim Report Abuse ok
WIPACKERFAN Champion Author Chicago Posts:8,814 Points:1,845,400 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 9:21:08 PM Ignore WIPACKERFAN Report Abuse Doesn't make sense.
GoGoGoodyear Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:2,060 Points:510,075 Joined:Mar 2010	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 9:18:22 PM Ignore GoGoGoodyear Report Abuse This is the kind of environmental improvement we can all enjoy because of lower natural gas prices. But why let the truth get in the way of a good crisis? I suppose the sky is not falling after all. Lost in all the noise and FUD is also the fact that the same companies that are using hydraulic fracturing to get the natural gas out of the ground are pumping CO2 into the empty wells, where it can remain stored forever, instead of released into the air where it can do more damage. But don't let the truth get in the way of a good story, and go ahead and claim that the sky is falling and global warming is killing us just because the midwest and eastern states had a few weeks of hotter than normal weather. I suppose if those same states have a few weeks of colder than normal weather the same environmentalists will be claiming that we are experiencing global cooling??
radiorumor Champion Author Texas Posts:2,827 Points:756,785 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 9:13:52 PM Ignore radiorumor Report Abuse Now the only problem is I can light my tap water
OGW Champion Author London Posts:5,334 Points:1,534,725 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 9:12:57 PM Ignore OGW Report Abuse Co2 may be falling because of the use of natural gas over coal but it is not because of fracking which causes more environmental damage than most other processes. Natural gas is readily available without using the fracking process and other methods may not be quite as fast but are much more environmentally friendly.
btex49 Champion Author Austin Posts:2,730 Points:533,030 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 9:07:28 PM Ignore btex49 Report Abuse Interesting...
big_mac64 Champion Author Tennessee Posts:10,593 Points:1,485,690 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 9:01:19 PM Ignore big_mac64 Report Abuse this story is contrary to another that said CO2 was rising due to nat gas. Who are we supposed to believe???
goodbuy Champion Author Michigan Posts:7,678 Points:1,424,680 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 8:57:45 PM Ignore goodbuy Report Abuse Good.
CPGas1815 Champion Author Michigan Posts:6,027 Points:1,099,605 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 8:55:20 PM Ignore CPGas1815 Report Abuse FRACK THIS Global polluters.
jad1960 Champion Author Gary Posts:1,555 Points:405,375 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 8:54:58 PM Ignore jad1960 Report Abuse ok
FuelOilOH Champion Author Cleveland Posts:2,837 Points:1,180,220 Joined:Oct 2007	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 8:54:42 PM Ignore FuelOilOH Report Abuse 'Bama will probably take credit for this. Heck, he might as well take credit for the air we breath.
YodaON Champion Author Ottawa Posts:2,942 Points:781,985 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 8:53:23 PM Ignore YodaON Report Abuse Fracking causing too much troouble
Is246 Champion Author Albuquerque Posts:1,019 Points:428,710 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 8:51:11 PM Ignore Is246 Report Abuse Great.