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Livestock farmers seek pause in ethanol production

MyWay News -- WASHINGTON (AP) - Livestock farmers and ranchers seeing their feed costs rise because of the worst drought in a quarter-century are demanding that the Environmental Protection Agency waive production requirements for corn-based ethanol.

The Obama administration sees no need for a waiver, siding with corn growers - many of them in presidential election battleground states Iowa and Ohio - who continue to support the mandate.

"If not now, when?" Randy Spronk, a Minnesota pork farmer, said of the EPA's authority to defer the ethanol production requirement when it threatens to severely harm the economy of a state or region. "Everyone should feel the pain of rationing."

Spronk, who is president-elect of the National Pork Producers Council, said livestock producers will have to reduce their he

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sparky808 Champion Author Honolulu Posts:3,139 Points:624,685 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Aug 10, 2012 10:32:15 AM Ignore sparky808 Report Abuse End the ethanol mandate.
camaro_man Champion Author Kitchener-Waterloo Posts:2,367 Points:637,770 Joined:Jun 2010	Message Posted: Aug 10, 2012 8:51:44 AM Ignore camaro_man Report Abuse wow
goldrose1 Champion Author Cleveland Posts:11,065 Points:1,948,630 Joined:Feb 2005	Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 10:28:26 PM Ignore goldrose1 Report Abuse Smithfield buys corn from Brazil for its pork. Then politician calls him Henny Penny. A politician doesn't believe what a business owner tells him that he did to survive. This is reality, not predicting. Why is our corn more expensive than shipping it here from South America?
Focus2 Champion Author Illinois Posts:7,910 Points:1,927,600 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 10:25:26 PM Ignore Focus2 Report Abuse We need CNG vehicles which would help meet many of the goals, cheaper fuel to boost the economy, cleaner burning than gasoline, less co2, no ethanol needed so corn and food prices would come back to reasonable levels, no dependance on foreign oil, or money going abroad. Problem is, the mandates still in affect and this country would keep making it even though we don't need any and would still export it to keep the industry going their way.
Focus2 Champion Author Illinois Posts:7,910 Points:1,927,600 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 10:16:05 PM Ignore Focus2 Report Abuse The government, she said, "is picking the ethanol industry to be the winner to get that bushel of corn." This was what I was afraid of when the G. Bush mandates came out. Fuel for cars and exports come ahead of food for livestock and people. No one will do the right thing, even in an election year for fear of a backlash by others.
rahcat Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:2,676 Points:689,675 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 10:14:27 PM Ignore rahcat Report Abuse Eat corn.....don't use it for fuel.
defiancegasman Champion Author Ohio Posts:7,099 Points:1,327,520 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 10:12:22 PM Ignore defiancegasman Report Abuse Cut subsided for BIG OIL instead of alterative energy!
CivicMA Champion Author Boston Posts:2,035 Points:561,620 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 10:12:21 PM Ignore CivicMA Report Abuse The farmers/ranchers are right but I don't expect Washington to listen to them.
miser709 Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:1,268 Points:1,093,950 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 10:11:05 PM Ignore miser709 Report Abuse I would like to see a stop in ethanol.
regout Champion Author Quebec Posts:3,090 Points:859,430 Joined:May 2010	Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 10:08:58 PM Ignore regout Report Abuse Let's the corn for people.
SUPRA1987 Sophomore Author Tampa Posts:170 Points:225,100 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 10:08:07 PM Ignore SUPRA1987 Report Abuse Then there is E85 fuel which is 85% ethanol.
CarolinaDragon Champion Author South Carolina Posts:6,697 Points:764,435 Joined:Oct 2009	Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 10:06:12 PM Ignore CarolinaDragon Report Abuse Ethanol in gasoline leads to higher prices at the pump.
Yankee829 Champion Author Dallas Posts:2,344 Points:586,315 Joined:Sep 2010	Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 10:06:11 PM Ignore Yankee829 Report Abuse Ok
hemiMI Veteran Author Michigan Posts:269 Points:422,040 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 10:05:52 PM Ignore hemiMI Report Abuse You can make ethenol from other things.
SteelPenny Champion Author Dallas Posts:31,283 Points:2,633,465 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 10:05:17 PM Ignore SteelPenny Report Abuse Ethanol is food - Oil goes in cars.
us4usa Champion Author Missouri Posts:6,118 Points:1,136,670 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 10:05:13 PM Ignore us4usa Report Abuse Less mpg with Corn water...
timesaverinc Champion Author Wichita Posts:1,603 Points:321,115 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 10:05:07 PM Ignore timesaverinc Report Abuse Do what we have to do eat
joel27nc Champion Author Raleigh Posts:10,672 Points:1,885,095 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 10:03:21 PM Ignore joel27nc Report Abuse We should pause it to feed us & the animals!
jetskijerry Champion Author North Carolina Posts:4,031 Points:798,995 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 10:03:02 PM Ignore jetskijerry Report Abuse destroys my Seadoo engine
jetskijerry Champion Author North Carolina Posts:4,031 Points:798,995 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 10:02:45 PM Ignore jetskijerry Report Abuse stop producing ethanol
grandamgt1 Champion Author Illinois Posts:2,481 Points:1,266,205 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 10:02:07 PM Ignore grandamgt1 Report Abuse Again government making "false economies". Without the mandate, the ethanol industry would crumble.
LocalSpyGuy Champion Author Tampa Posts:7,936 Points:1,611,900 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 9:56:23 PM Ignore LocalSpyGuy Report Abuse Sounds reasonable.
Chris46 Champion Author Dayton Posts:23,954 Points:2,107,475 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 9:55:22 PM Ignore Chris46 Report Abuse Maybe they seen the light?
dky63 Veteran Author Illinois Posts:417 Points:166,965 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 9:55:06 PM Ignore dky63 Report Abuse Ethanol AND Obama suck
Jmac2008 Champion Author Missouri Posts:2,406 Points:906,890 Joined:Dec 2008	Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 9:54:50 PM Ignore Jmac2008 Report Abuse good
seahawks Champion Author Washington Posts:3,321 Points:1,984,050 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 9:54:47 PM Ignore seahawks Report Abuse corn production needs to be only in food chain!!!
mrbee Champion Author Little Rock Posts:3,889 Points:2,493,155 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 9:54:16 PM Ignore mrbee Report Abuse Ban ethanol.
bradley1969 Champion Author Wisconsin Posts:1,673 Points:358,055 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 9:52:49 PM Ignore bradley1969 Report Abuse You would think the president would not try to harm the pork production which in turn would hurt all his prok rines/sow belly fat back and the other pork that he lives on. LOL..
Blue48 Champion Author Illinois Posts:7,440 Points:1,664,670 Joined:Feb 2007	Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 9:51:01 PM Ignore Blue48 Report Abuse AMEN!
carefrey Champion Author Orlando Posts:5,660 Points:1,184,260 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 9:49:05 PM Ignore carefrey Report Abuse Boooo to Ethanol!!!!
vrossi46 Champion Author San Jose Posts:2,797 Points:829,695 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 9:40:28 PM Ignore vrossi46 Report Abuse no more ethanol!
abcdMA Champion Author Worcester Posts:8,052 Points:1,600,730 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 9:39:27 PM Ignore abcdMA Report Abuse food is not fuel
Vitobug Champion Author El Paso Posts:1,979 Points:662,440 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 9:33:33 PM Ignore Vitobug Report Abuse ok
Darwin00 All-Star Author Mississippi Posts:848 Points:292,140 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 9:32:47 PM Ignore Darwin00 Report Abuse Don't put that stuff in any of your small engines (lawnmower, weedeater, blower, etc.) unless you run them all the time. It will clog your fuel lines. I am glad there are gas stations that sell ethanol free gasoline. It's funny though. As I understand it, gasoline with ethanol is more expensive to make but gasoline without it cost more at the pump!
FlyNFool Champion Author South Carolina Posts:8,374 Points:1,711,725 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 9:27:12 PM Ignore FlyNFool Report Abuse YES!
skybiker Champion Author South Carolina Posts:7,403 Points:1,585,640 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 9:22:17 PM Ignore skybiker Report Abuse Corn is for eating...Alcohol is for drinking!!
30mpg80 Champion Author Lexington Posts:10,265 Points:1,514,580 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 9:20:41 PM Ignore 30mpg80 Report Abuse Give me E0
qwerty17 Champion Author New Jersey Posts:3,760 Points:1,143,275 Joined:Oct 2009	Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 9:19:45 PM Ignore qwerty17 Report Abuse you go, spronk.
wayoung56 Champion Author Alabama Posts:2,915 Points:844,035 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 9:18:20 PM Ignore wayoung56 Report Abuse Interesting article...
DutchTreatMI Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:3,441 Points:778,190 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 9:18:07 PM Ignore DutchTreatMI Report Abuse Ethanol has never been a good option. When the animal producers and people food are more important than they really need to stop corn for fuel. Not that I wanted ethanol in gas in the first place.
outlaw329 Champion Author Austin Posts:7,734 Points:1,398,915 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 9:17:30 PM Ignore outlaw329 Report Abuse Certain things are for fuel and certain things are for food, leave corn to the feed part as it is bad for the air and cars.
sillywagon Champion Author New York Posts:15,113 Points:1,468,070 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 9:15:03 PM Ignore sillywagon Report Abuse Corn ethanol is one of the best examples of "Crony Capitalism." The only way I can see to stop it would be to elect more tea party conservative Republicans, and elect fewer establishment Republicans and liberal Democrats. Those last two groups just love Government spending and mandates. Very little corn ethanol would be sold without the mandate.
mackconsult Champion Author Portland Posts:5,369 Points:868,185 Joined:Jan 2009	Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 9:12:27 PM Ignore mackconsult Report Abuse Uh oh
knot2swift Champion Author Calgary Posts:4,501 Points:716,760 Joined:Nov 2009	Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 9:10:59 PM Ignore knot2swift Report Abuse I suppose it all comes down to food and other things. I ask this board "What are your gut feelings on this matter?"
mnorthwood13 Champion Author Michigan Posts:1,391 Points:772,455 Joined:Apr 2010	Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 9:05:23 PM Ignore mnorthwood13 Report Abuse They must!
John747 Champion Author Chicago Posts:474,595 Points:3,651,635 Joined:Aug 2001	Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 9:03:22 PM Ignore John747 Report Abuse Stop burning our food supply!
OGW Champion Author London Posts:5,436 Points:1,556,195 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 9:02:08 PM Ignore OGW Report Abuse No food for fuel. PERIOD!
kosciak Champion Author Hartford Posts:1,106 Points:554,525 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 9:01:54 PM Ignore kosciak Report Abuse Ok
Is246 Champion Author Albuquerque Posts:1,043 Points:442,640 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 9:01:47 PM Ignore Is246 Report Abuse This would be a good move.
Tekkersmom57 Champion Author Syracuse Posts:2,014 Points:727,915 Joined:May 2010	Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 9:01:39 PM Ignore Tekkersmom57 Report Abuse I can not believe that the government isn't listening to the farmer. Let them feed their livestock for a better price by discontinuing ethanol at the present. I really don't think that is asking too much to ask.